But we mustn’t think like that or let our judgment be clouded: hard as it may be in many cases, the truth can be gotten to. But it is not arrived at by majority or by consensus, even though superficially it may look that way. Democracy e.g. does not seek the truth, instead it’s a very imperfect way of decision making.

“The Holocaust isn’t a ‘matter of opinion’, we know it happened with a very high degree of detail”

If enough people ‘believe’ currently it was a made up event by _______ (who cares tbh) where only 1 million Jews died – and that spreads, there is a chance it could be taken as fact by many people. Now whether the truth stands with people like you, or me, or whoever – the more ‘that’ truth gains acceptance, the more it stands a chance of replacing ‘the’ truth.

The Holocaust isn’t a ‘matter of opinion’, we know it happened with a very high degree of detail. Similarly the Earth isn’t flat and gravity does exist and does obey Newton’s law of Universal Gravity.

Scientists didn’t one day decide that nuclear fission would be a good idea, instead they quite literally stumbled on it. Quantum Mechanics explains exquisitely and very precisely (accordance between theory and outcome of experiments) why some atoms are fissionable and how this works. But the deeper meaning of Quantum Mechanics remains subject to some controversy, a ‘matter of opinion’ you could say…

Truth stands on its own, even if it may remain unknown to us.

I guess you hold that as truth. I’m not so sure. But hey, I’m happy if you’re right in this instance.

The truth may be elusive but it exists. Lies cannot be turned into the truth.

Goebbels said that if you repeat a lie often enough it becomes the truth. Goebbels was a liar. And that’s the truth.

That you (thankfully), and I think it’s a ‘proven hoax’ is good. That is still remains a top of far too many people’s reasons for Anti-Semitism leads me to believe that the ‘hoax’ has sadly become a truth for far too many people. So much does it ’stand on its own’, that you hear people non-stop saying how “Jews control the US” etc … So again, if it ’stands for 1000 years’, who are we to say it’s not ‘the truth’?

(Was Goebbels who made that famous statement about the ‘truth’? – I don’t remember)

That’s not the truth (assuming you’re referring to ‘The Protocols’), it’s a proven hoax.

Absurd example or weak joke, not sure…

Take for example, ‘The Elder of Ziyon’ truth. It still stands on its own – going strong for over 1000 years – What say you?

The truth stands on its own, unaffected by those who behold or utter it. ‘Radical’, ‘extreme’, or ‘moderate’ are normative terms anyway without an absolute scale against which to calibrate them.