Comments on: Harvey Milk and the Politics of Normalization

By: Expert-improvement

Expert-improvement — Sun, 17 Oct 2010 04:51:11 +0000

Everybody sometimes thought about home remodeling, and many of us have already improved their houses. People always tend to improve and remodel their homes. So I think that articles about home remodeling and improvement would be interesting to most users, even if this theme do not match forum’s subjects. I’m going to post here some articles on home remodeling and improvement, and if the administration of this forum consider that I’m wrong and such topic shouldn’t be here, please delete it or move to a more appropriate section. Thank you for your attention, and here is the first article for those who are interested:

Home Improvements – General Points

Every home improvement situation is different. Still, there are some general points that apply to most projects.

Some General Points

When all the woodwork in a house is the same color (cream, white, and off-white work easily), spaces tend to visually “flow smoothly” even if the walls of rooms are different colors. Make sure you don’t break this rule.

The colors of all rooms, which can be seen at the same time, should look good together. Let’s take a typical center hall floor plan for a modern two-story house. The living room and dining room are to the right and left of the entrance. The foyer goes straight back to the family room, breakfast area, and kitchen across the back of the house. There is probably a deck opening off that area. Some part of all those areas can be seen from each room, and the foyer walls continue upstairs to a hall from which each bedroom is visible.

To continue our example with cream woodwork, the foyer and halls might be painted a pearl gray, light tan, soft gold, or deeper cream. The woodwork is probably a gloss or semi-gloss and the walls and ceiling a flat paint. Since ceilings reflect light down on people, they’re usually best in cream or off-white. I once saw a dining room with an indirectly lit octagonal tray ceiling painted to look like creamy clouds in a peachy sunset sky that made every dinner guest look like he or she had a perfect complexion. It was wonderful.

The living room opening off our foyer might be a solid color (maybe sage green or deeper tan) or it might look very handsome with a vertically striped wall paper (cream and gray, cream and green, or cream and tan are good possibilities). The dining room is apt to have a chair rail. A darker color could look good below the chair rail (again sage green, gray, gold or tan would work) with a lighter tint of the same color above. If a solid color were chosen for the living room, the dining room could handle a deep red below the chair rail and a cream paper with a narrow red stripe above it. Lots of crystal and mirrors would look terrific in a room like that.

I’m sure you get the idea. Today’s open floor plans make it important that rooms work together.

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By: Madzionist

Madzionist — Tue, 24 Mar 2009 22:02:49 +0000

‘Round and ’round we go. I guess that means we’ve come to an impasse; you want to have a discussion about my personal thoughts on homosexuality, which I flatly refuse to do, while I want to have a discussion on the ethical ramifications of genetic science and how homosexuality could be affected, but you refuse to have such a conversation.

/Thread.

By: Nick

Nick — Tue, 24 Mar 2009 17:37:12 +0000

“The real point is whether or not parents-to-be should have the right to customize the genetics of their children, and, if so, to what degree.” – but not Alex’s point at all; if you’re raising a new, only tangentially related question it’s reasonable to ask where you stand on it; by raising such issues you grant legitimacy to ideas (“curing” gays or that gays are “defective”)that many of us find abhorent. As Alex said, it’s as morally neutral as innocently bringing up the question of “curing jewishness” as if this was within the bounds of reasonable debate, i.e not at all. You’ve already projected your morality to a certain extent; you might as well be explicit.

By: Madzionist

Madzionist — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 17:35:33 +0000

Nick, I’m really not interested in projecting my own morality into this debate, and don’t really intend to either. Certainly many people have no problem with homosexuality, hell some probably see it as superior to heterosexuality, while others obviously view it as a defective condition that leads to a life sentence of being an outcast with a disproportionally high likelihood of contracting a terminal illness. What I personally think about homosexuality, or for that matter gender, hair color, or height selection, is not important at all int he framework of this discussion. Irrelevant, actually. The real point is whether or not parents-to-be should have the right to customize the genetics of their children, and, if so, to what degree.

By: Nick

Nick — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 17:00:44 +0000

Madzionist- you bought up the question of eugenics, which wasn’t really pertinent to Alex’s post. It’s very hard question to raise in a morally neutral way- I would venture that for most of us, there’s no ethical dilemna here in the way there might be for preventing genetic defects, because most people (who read the blog, anyway) don’t see same-sex relations as a problem; on the contrary. Do you see homosexuality as a social problem, to be cured if the means become available and other ethical considerations are resolved? Why have you framed it in this way?

By: Madzionist

Madzionist — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 14:57:26 +0000

Exactly, Alex. There are always going to be questions like these about what is and what isn’t permissible in terms of the science of genetics. Is it ethical or unethical to predetermine the sexual orientations of our children? If parents want to produce only hetero babies, and the science exists to do so, is it right or wrong for them to be provided the option as we can do now with gender? How about the height, or the eye color? Skin color? Singing ability? We are approaching an era where the customization of our offspring is becoming more and more of a reality, and how we choose to play God with our technology is a matter of social, political, ethical and religious debate. No simple, knee-jerk answers suffice when embarking on such complexity.

By: Alex Stein

Alex Stein — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 11:58:12 +0000

MadZionist – why does homosexuality need curing any more than heterosexuality?

By: Madzionist

Madzionist — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 11:54:20 +0000

Alex, there is unquestionably a genetic proclivity for sexual orientation. The question of whether that means genetic science should cure it at some point is a matter of ethical perspective. What’s interesting to me is that as genetic research continues, ethical questions like these will continue to be more commonplace. What is the ethical line on cloning? Should we cure dwarfism? Should we be able to custom build our babies intelligence, hair/skin/eye color, height in a tube?

As genetic science and technology continues to develop, the ethical taboos of the times will be shifting with them, and profound ethical debates and fears will be at the forefront of each potential breakthrough.

By: Alex Stein

Alex Stein — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 06:33:19 +0000

Nick – agreed, of course sexual identity can be much more fluid, but this is a 900 word off the cuff blog-post!
Gaon – I don’t remember him promising to publicly out people, although I do remember him encouraging people to out themselves.
MadZionist – what if I said that Judaism could be cured through genetics?
Also, I posted this on Harry’s Place, and the comments are worth looking at
http://www.hurryupharry.org/2009/03/18/harvey-milk-and-the-politics-of-normalization/