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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 12:15:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sean, aside from the casual racism and strange fantasies about my violent death (not to mention the bizarre typos: &#039;untter moron&#039; and &#039;wee you to be killed&#039;), I think you are trying to ask a reasonable question. This is how a sane person would phrase it: &quot;Don&#039;t you think that Targeted Assassinations played a role in bringing the Second Intifada to an end?&quot; I shall give you the benefit of the doubt, and answer that question.

I think that many factors contributed to the end of the Second Intifada: the building of the separation barrier, fatigue, the disengagement from Gaza, stronger Israeli intelligence, the rise of Mahmoud Abbas, etc etc. I am not a historian and I don&#039;t intend to weigh up those factors. But, yes, I would be prepared to acknowledge that targeted assassinations affected Palestinian decision-making. But it cuts both ways. Generally, assassinations were used when there was a lull in the fighting. This was short-term thinking at its most tragic; politicians cutting off Medusa&#039;s head in the knowledge that it would grow back. In the absence of an accompanying political plan, the use of force will never be sufficient to solve the problem. So, while I would accept that targeted assassinations had some short-term benefits, I do not accept that they have solved the ultimate problem (that of how we are going to somehow share this tiny land) in the long-run.

By the way, you may want to reflect on one particular targeted assassination, that of Salah Shehade, killed with a one-ton bomb in Gaza. Among the &quot;imbecile Palestinians&quot; killed were nine children. As a proud Israeli, Zionist, Jew, and former soldier in the IDF, I&#039;m not prepared to tolerate my country behaving in such a way.  

Alex</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sean, aside from the casual racism and strange fantasies about my violent death (not to mention the bizarre typos: &#8216;untter moron&#8217; and &#8216;wee you to be killed&#8217;), I think you are trying to ask a reasonable question. This is how a sane person would phrase it: &#8220;Don&#8217;t you think that Targeted Assassinations played a role in bringing the Second Intifada to an end?&#8221; I shall give you the benefit of the doubt, and answer that question.</p>
<p>I think that many factors contributed to the end of the Second Intifada: the building of the separation barrier, fatigue, the disengagement from Gaza, stronger Israeli intelligence, the rise of Mahmoud Abbas, etc etc. I am not a historian and I don&#8217;t intend to weigh up those factors. But, yes, I would be prepared to acknowledge that targeted assassinations affected Palestinian decision-making. But it cuts both ways. Generally, assassinations were used when there was a lull in the fighting. This was short-term thinking at its most tragic; politicians cutting off Medusa&#8217;s head in the knowledge that it would grow back. In the absence of an accompanying political plan, the use of force will never be sufficient to solve the problem. So, while I would accept that targeted assassinations had some short-term benefits, I do not accept that they have solved the ultimate problem (that of how we are going to somehow share this tiny land) in the long-run.</p>
<p>By the way, you may want to reflect on one particular targeted assassination, that of Salah Shehade, killed with a one-ton bomb in Gaza. Among the &#8220;imbecile Palestinians&#8221; killed were nine children. As a proud Israeli, Zionist, Jew, and former soldier in the IDF, I&#8217;m not prepared to tolerate my country behaving in such a way.  </p>
<p>Alex</p>
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		<title>By: sean</title>
		<link>http://falsedichotomies.com/2008/11/26/targeted-assassinations-20/comment-page-1/#comment-201</link>
		<dc:creator>sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2008 21:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You oppose targeted assasinations and don&#039;t get the hint when you yourself state 

&quot;I regularly spoke out against the IDF practice of targeted assassinations - the sending of helicopter gunships and hit-squads to kill leaders of Hamas and Islamic Jihad et al. Since the dying down of the Intifada, the practice seems to have all but died out, but that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t remind ourselves why it’s wrong.&quot;

You&#039;re an untter moron and I would laugh happily wee you to be killed by a terrorist who the IDF chose to not take out because some imbecile palestinians would also die.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You oppose targeted assasinations and don&#8217;t get the hint when you yourself state </p>
<p>&#8220;I regularly spoke out against the IDF practice of targeted assassinations &#8211; the sending of helicopter gunships and hit-squads to kill leaders of Hamas and Islamic Jihad et al. Since the dying down of the Intifada, the practice seems to have all but died out, but that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t remind ourselves why it’s wrong.&#8221;</p>
<p>You&#8217;re an untter moron and I would laugh happily wee you to be killed by a terrorist who the IDF chose to not take out because some imbecile palestinians would also die.</p>
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		<title>By: LB</title>
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		<dc:creator>LB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 18:20:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure - http://www.shalemcenter.org.il/media/?did=64&amp;aid=2cebedd70332e20f1adca1cd1c99e209</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure &#8211; <a href="http://www.shalemcenter.org.il/media/?did=64&amp;aid=2cebedd70332e20f1adca1cd1c99e209" rel="nofollow">http://www.shalemcenter.org.il/media/?did=64&amp;aid=2cebedd70332e20f1adca1cd1c99e209</a></p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://falsedichotomies.com/2008/11/26/targeted-assassinations-20/comment-page-1/#comment-152</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 17:37:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comment. Do you have a link for the review?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comment. Do you have a link for the review?</p>
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		<title>By: LB</title>
		<link>http://falsedichotomies.com/2008/11/26/targeted-assassinations-20/comment-page-1/#comment-151</link>
		<dc:creator>LB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 17:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think there is an additional issue affecting the way these decisions are made. The IDF is responsible for maintaining security, yet the government (at least this one) has time and again released prisoners, that the IDF has already arrested. These are not only administrative detainees, but also convicted prisoners, who need to be formally pardoned in order to be released. This amounts to an ineffective &quot;revolving door&quot; policy, and so the IDF pushes to get more &quot;targeted assassinations&quot; approved, in order completely cease these terrorists&#039; activity. Maybe if arrests and convictions would actually be an effective tool, the IDF would not feel the need for as many operations like this.

By the way, I don&#039;t agree that the High Court is the guardian of democracy, at least not in an effective manner (for more, look at Richard Posner&#039;s review of Aharon Barak&#039;s book), that&#039;s not really relevant to this post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there is an additional issue affecting the way these decisions are made. The IDF is responsible for maintaining security, yet the government (at least this one) has time and again released prisoners, that the IDF has already arrested. These are not only administrative detainees, but also convicted prisoners, who need to be formally pardoned in order to be released. This amounts to an ineffective &#8220;revolving door&#8221; policy, and so the IDF pushes to get more &#8220;targeted assassinations&#8221; approved, in order completely cease these terrorists&#8217; activity. Maybe if arrests and convictions would actually be an effective tool, the IDF would not feel the need for as many operations like this.</p>
<p>By the way, I don&#8217;t agree that the High Court is the guardian of democracy, at least not in an effective manner (for more, look at Richard Posner&#8217;s review of Aharon Barak&#8217;s book), that&#8217;s not really relevant to this post.</p>
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